Raga of song please

Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ greed.cs.umass.edu) on Sat May 17 07:42:45 EDT 1997.
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The popular notation used on this page. The twelve notes of an octave are the following.
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 S R1 R2 R3 G3 M1 M2 P D1 D2 D3 N3 G1 G2 N1 N2

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From: Mythila (@ 15.219.201.69) on: Tue Jun 8 11:24:46 EDT 2004

Eariyile oru kashmir roja - Hamir Kalyani
Vaa Vaa Vaa Anbe Vaa Dhaa Dhaa Dhaa Uyirai Dhaaa- Hamsadhwani
From: rajesh_rs (@ 202.88.234.113) on: Thu Jun 10 04:28:50 EDT 2004

Vel,Sindhuja,Pradeep..
Thanks
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Pradeep..
I hope You wud have heard "aezhu swarangalum thazhuki varum oru gaanam"(chiriyo chiri/mal/ravindran)
if i am right it follows sivaranjani+g3.
i heard that it's called misra sivaranjani.
then isn't "tere mere beech main"too based in misra sivaranjani.
From: Pradeep (@ 202.54.136.130) on: Thu Jun 10 05:54:00 EDT 2004

Rajesh,
is rajesh_rs=rajesh_tvm?

yes you are correct,you might want to add "mere naina Sawan bado ",Pranaya Sarovara theeram(mallu) etc.... there are lots of film songs that use G2/G3 and D1/D2 interchangebly

Misra sivranjini uses both G3 and D1 as anya swaras.

I couldnt get any respone to my earlier qs..

HAS ANYONE HEAR SANDA KOZHI FROM AYUTHA EZHUTHU.. AND WHICH RAGA DOES IT FOLLOW?
From: rajeshrs_tvm (@ 202.88.234.113) on: Fri Jun 11 03:36:23 EDT 2004

thnks pradeep ..
yes even Aezhu swarangalum song has d1 in the second interlude.
(that beautiful flute piece)
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i wanted put my name short.ok ..no more confusion..
this is rajeshrs_tvm.:)
From: rajeshrs_tvm (@ 202.88.234.146) on: Tue Jun 15 06:23:26 EDT 2004

enna aacchu? ...yarumae kaanom?
From: Kupps (@ 192.76.80.74) on: Tue Jun 15 11:43:45 EDT 2004

adhaanae :)
From: Vel (@ 210.212.240.19) on: Wed Jun 16 00:31:49 EDT 2004

aadhdhaaaannaaee ::--))
From: Mythila (@ 128.88.255.35) on: Wed Jun 16 05:16:33 EDT 2004

"Sandaikozhi" seems like Khamas for some portion but suddenly in "konja neram ennai kollaiyaa", it sounds like Kaapi. Rahman's usual kalappadam :)-
From: purv (@ 198.38.6.253) on: Wed Jun 16 14:46:53 EDT 2004

Hi guys. I have a question I would like to present. There's this one SPB devotional song, 'Kalmanam Urugi', and the tune sounds very beautiful. But I cannot make out what raagam is it. Kanakangi?? Ramapriya?? Chandrajothi?? None of the above? What is it?

Here's the link:

http://ww.smashits.com/index.cfm?Page=Audio&SubPage=ShowTracks&AlbumID=3717

Listen and tell us what you think.

Regards,
purv
From: purv (@ 198.38.6.253) on: Wed Jun 16 15:59:25 EDT 2004

It (Kalmanam Urugi) sounds kinda like Rathnaangi to me, maybe Gamanasrama, but I would like a second opinion.
From: Kupps (@ 192.76.80.74) on: Wed Jun 16 18:41:01 EDT 2004

I read the statement as "Sandaikozhi seems like 'Thamas' for some portion but suddenly....".

especially when the post is immediately after Vel's ;)

I was wondering Vel is called as "sandakozhi" in this thread and thought that mythila is all set to take him here (too) :D

then i winked my eyes twice and carefully read the statement correctly. :)
From: purv (@ 198.38.6.253) on: Mon Jun 21 14:05:57 EDT 2004

Let me be a little more specific. 'Kalmanam Urugi' is in SPB's devotional album entitled 'Devi Gaanam.' This album also has songs like 'Yezhigalai Thavam' in Subhapanthuvaraali and 'Moogambigai Unnai' in Sivaranjani.
From: purv (@ 198.38.6.253) on: Mon Jun 21 14:12:13 EDT 2004

BTW, is it true that 'Naadhar Mudhi Melirukkum' in the 60s film Thiruvarutchelvar (KV Mahadevan)is based on raaga Punnagavaraali?
From: Mythila (@ 128.88.255.34) on: Tue Jun 22 06:04:32 EDT 2004

yes, it is on Punnaagavaraali. There is another song "Muzhu nilavu kaayum neram " from an obscure film PournamiNilavil or something , sung by Jeyachandran, MD: GangaiAmaran which I think is also Punnaagavaraali and the last time I heard that song was when I was in school.
Any info about the movie/song is welcome
From: CSR (@ 202.131.115.148) on: Thu Jun 24 02:48:21 EDT 2004

Yes Muzhu Nilavu Kayam Neram is indeed punnagavarali and Ganagai Amaran indicated in one of the interviews in those days. Film name i dont remember exactly, may be Oru Vidu kadhai Oru Thodar kadhai ??
From: CSR (@ 202.131.115.148) on: Sat Jun 26 07:11:50 EDT 2004

Hello All,
The recent hindi film Lakshya.. has one song "Agar Thum Kaho..." Just the initial Pallavi lines reminding the Charanam of "Nagumo Ganale..." Any comments ? I feel now-adays lot of bgms and songs of hindi films has the tfm touch. May be the migrants from tfm are doing some good job !
From: Raghu (@ 4.34.165.210) on: Sun Jun 27 13:33:03 EDT 2004

what is the raga of 'edho edho ondru' from enakku 20 unakku 18?
From: purv (@ 198.38.6.253) on: Mon Jun 28 14:21:04 EDT 2004

Hi. Wondering....
Are there any noteworthy raaga-based songs in the following IR films?

Manaivi Solle Manthiram
En Uyir Kannammaa
Ilaiyaraagam
Dharmaseelan
Thambikku Oru Paattu
Nyaayam
Idhayathile Oru Idam
Vasantham
Chinna Ramaswamy Periya Ramaswamy
Paasa Mazhai
Eetti

These are just a few albums wherein I haven't heard any songs, and am curious about.

Regards,
purv
From: Mythila (@ 128.88.255.34) on: Tue Jun 29 09:03:46 EDT 2004

En Uyir Kannammaa - has a lovely Chitra solo song
"yaarai kettu thenral poovai serndhadhu" in Shivaranjini raagam. This song is deeply moving and erotic at the same time.
Eetti - a fascinating SJ solo "kaatukulle karugamani" in raagam Madhyamavathi.Gives me a feeling of getting lost into the deep woods
Iam desperately longing to listen to these two songs .
From: purv (@ 198.38.6.253) on: Tue Jun 29 11:31:38 EDT 2004

Thanks for your input, Mythila.

Now, here's a little tidbit for you all, on raagam Ahiri.

It's raaga lakshanam looks like this:

s r1 s g3 m1 p d1 n2 S
S n2 d1 p m1 g3 r1 s

It is a janya of 14th Melakarta, Vakhulabharanam. This raagam is a sampoorna-sampoorna raagam, with a vakram in the aarohanam. It is a bhaashaanga raagam, with the bhaashaanga swaras being Ri and Ga. Finally, it is very much like Subhapanthuvaraali, in that it is generally used for pathos, and 'will make you cry.' There's a superstition that if one sings Ahiri in the morning, one will not get any food for the day, since it is generally used for pathos.

I think this raagam has actually been used in a TFM song, by none other than the genius Ilayaraja. The song comes in the film 'Ponmaana Selvan', as 'Thoppile Irunthaalum.' This song uses all the notes of Vakhulabharanam, and it seems sogamaana (sad) in its outlook. But it sounds different from other songs in V'Bharanam raagam, such as 'Jingaan Jinakkuthaan' in Veetla Viseshanga or 'Enga Rathnam Thanga Rathnam' in Sattam En Kaiyil.
From: rajeshrs_tvm (@ 202.88.234.121) on: Wed Jun 30 01:50:58 EDT 2004

Pls reconfirm whether this song purely follows Sreeragam
"Theendaai..mei theendaai"
any other film song based on sree.?
Now i am closely listening to the keerthanam "entharo mahanubhavulu"by Dr.BMK
pls let me know anyother singer had given better
performance on this keerthanam.
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One more thing. IMHO , two carnatic singers simultaneously singing (eg.Hyderabad Bros.,Bombay Sisters)is not so pleasing to the ears compared to solo singing. "konjam koochal poala ulladhu."
Now only I startted hearing to Clasical music.
From: rajesh (@ 202.88.234.121) on: Wed Jun 30 01:52:27 EDT 2004

"reconfirm" = already Ram mentioned that theendai song follows sREE..
From: Vel (@ 210.212.240.19) on: Wed Jun 30 06:28:08 EDT 2004

Rajesh,

"Vizhamalae irukka mudiyuma" from STUDENT No-1, may be a candidate for sree ragam.

The last song in this link http://www.musicindiaonline.com/music/l/WW000I3K
From: rajesh (@ 202.88.239.18) on: Thu Jul 1 05:16:40 EDT 2004

ok vel
From: pradeep (@ 202.54.136.130) on: Thu Jul 1 06:59:15 EDT 2004

Rajesh,
I feel the charanams dont follow Sree Ragam as N3 is also used I will reconfirm that.
From: Raghu (@ 4.34.165.210) on: Sat Jul 3 19:12:34 EDT 2004

What is the raga of 'edho edho ondru' from enakku 20 unakku 18?
Please let me know.

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