Topic started by eden (@ 22.214.171.124) on Tue Dec 21 06:58:21 EST 1999.
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That Kannadasan had a few assistants is well-known (One of them is Panju Arunachalam, who introduced IR to TF). The purpose of this thread is to pick out some rare, funny lines in Kavignar's songs and wonder whether they were penned by his assistants...
- From: eden (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Tue Dec 21 07:08:56 EST 1999
The one that my cousin used to make fun of comes to my mind..It's from ninaithalE inikkum.. He used to narrate like this:
Kavingnar `Bharathi kaNNammA, neeyadi chinnamma' nnu ezhuthittu keLambippoyttaru..appuram assistants vandhu ezhudhinadhu: `Bharathi kannayya, neeyE chinnayya'..Bharathi engE `Kannayyava'llam pathi pAdirukkAru?:-)
- From: hihi:-) (@ vengu.umsl.edu)
on: Tue Dec 21 10:45:03 EST 1999
- From: bb (@ desert-77.slip.uiuc.edu)
on: Tue Dec 21 10:57:47 EST 1999
eden, good one:-)
- From: sk (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Tue Dec 21 19:11:26 EST 1999
If the lady sings
'Bharathi kaNN ayyA (nee)'?
that makes some sense, does it not? :-)
(We need to listen to Vani J's singing to
find out whether she sings kannayyA or kaNNayyA.)
Also, are you sure that these lines were
inserted by the assistants? Or, as you
mentioned in the title, you are just
- From: Ramki (@ ptp133.telsoft.net)
on: Tue Dec 21 20:10:15 EST 1999
Wasnt kannan(kannapiraan) a fav god for Bharathi??He has written many songs on kannan..probably kannadasan meant that
you are his favorite woman(bharathi kannama)
you are his favorite god(kannayya or kanhaiya )
- From: Kamesh (@ hlr-13-103.tm.net.my)
on: Tue Dec 21 20:47:38 EST 1999
Recent Kumudam has an article in which Rama Narayanan says he was an assistant to kavignar Kannadasan.
- From: eden (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Tue Dec 21 22:47:21 EST 1999
I'm just wondering:-)
Another one falls in the famous song kaNNE kalaimAnE...
From the beginning till the end of 1st stanza, the man appears to be appealing to God, pious & all (Andavanai idhaiththan kEtkiren...Eno dheivam sathi seidhadhu..etc) These lines, I feel, are obviously by KD.
But, for the 2nd stanza of the song, probably kavignar was not around or ill?? I used to wonder who really wrote the 2nd stanza...A sudden twist to love, passion and in the end a blunder...`neeyillamal edhu nimmadhi, nee than ingu-or indRu- en sannithi'???
My understanding of `sannithi' is the place where they place idols for worship..I don't think Kavignar will imagine placing the girl with amnesia in `sannithi'...It's probably some assistant guy...
- From: Kishore (@ unknown-11-16.ws11.clorox.com)
on: Wed Dec 22 01:01:59 EST 1999
enna simple concepta ippadi confuse pannitteenga?
nAyakan: bhArathi kaNNammA neeyadi chinnamma...
nAyaki: bharathi kaNN aiyya, neeyE chinnayyA...
unakku bhArathiyai pOl (kavithai) pArvaiyirukku athAn naan bhArathi kaNNammAvA theriyarEnnu maRaimugamA compliment pannrAnga:-)
On kannE kalaimAnE, this was the last song he wrote before leaving for Chicago (where he passed away). But, I don't think there's any confusion in the lyrics - sridevi who has lost her memory acts like a child. kenji, konji, thalaivAri, dress varaiyil ellAm seigirAr nAyakan, just like you do for god. kuzhanthaiyum deivamum gunathAl onnunga, KDye sollirukkAru:-)
- From: Jana (@ bornfree.proxy.lucent.com)
on: Wed Dec 22 14:46:28 EST 1999
Isn't it difficult to pinpoint what is penned down by KD and his assistant in any song. It is really appreciatable if any one knows that kind of minute details. Of course, one can identify few lines based on the contents, if it differes from the Poet's style. But again, it is an assumption we will be making.
- From: eden (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Thu Dec 23 06:51:38 EST 1999
There again, another big doubt: what'll these assistants do (PA, Rama Narayanan etc.)?
In the case of MD, obviously the assistants can do a lot of mundane tasks...say, like arraning a couple of violinists etc...But, what'll the assistants of a kavignar do? (avar dictation'ai `short hand' seivarkalO, ennavO?)
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