Topic started by Statistician (@ 126.96.36.199) on Sat Sep 8 17:18:14 EDT 2001.
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Both of them have over 4000 songs to their credit. While Thayagraja has been a true vaggeyakara ( one who writes both the lyrics and sets them to music ), Ilayaraja has composed the music for thousands of songs and also been a vaggeyakara himself, albeit in a limited sense. Ilayaraja has also composed background scores for over 800 films.
- From: confucius (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Sat Sep 8 22:09:34 EDT 2001
ithu konjam overa therila?
- From: confucius (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Sat Sep 8 22:10:39 EDT 2001
one thing is surely true. Thyagaraja never did copy or lift tunes in his time. Ilayaraaja did.
- From: Statistician (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Sat Sep 8 23:27:11 EDT 2001
Comrade Confucius : Just shows that you, indeed, are confused. The question was whether they are the most prolific - nothing to do with originality. Perhaps that will clear your confusion and also help you choose a clearer name.
- From: RealThyagaraja/Ilayaraja fan (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Sun Sep 9 09:51:32 EDT 2001
chappaaththi chappaaththi thaan rotti rotti thaan....
- From: yogan. (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Fri Sep 14 04:06:28 EDT 2001
The topic is interesting.confucius dont know much about the musichistory of Tamil.Because
he say Thyagaraja never did copy.It is not true
there are so many evedence of thyagaraja and other
socalled "great composers" are copied the folkmusic of Tamilnadu.Dr.s.Ramanathan (professer of carnaticmusic)made some musicprograms in thiruchi radio about how did Thyagaraja completely
copied from tamilfolkmusic and templesongs & the
great nathaswaram.All the socalled "sangeetha jambavankal" accept that.Because mr.Thyagarajah
wrote his songs in his own language, therefore
people think there is nothing in Tamil. They mistake my friends.Because,before Mr. Thyagaraja
and other there were "muum moorthikal" in Tamil.
In music history nodody never tell the truth about their secrets of music.The same think is that A.R.rahuman says he is not listning illaiyarajah´s songs.Because ARR think his fans
are fools. That maybe correct!
But Anandevikatan in cinema section about Padiyappa (vimarsanam)wrote that they can´t see
ARR, Because the songs like Illaiyaraja´s and some songs like Deva.
I think Mr.Illaiyarajah is most tallented and
great musician/composer india has ever produced.
But it is very sad that mr.Illaiyaraja din´t come
out of the cinema.
Mr.Illaiyarajah is a great composer in India
is ever produced and he is more than Mr.Thyagarajah.Illaiyaraja has respect on thyagaraja is a good think.
- From: Yogan. (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Fri Sep 14 04:24:55 EDT 2001
Mr.Illayarajah,the person who said the secret of his music and how the misicdirector copied/inspired others,and declaired that who is making most copy without knowing to fans he is
the"big musicdirector".He told that in front of
mr.M.S.Viswanathan & mr.K.V.Mahadevan in a concert
in Madurai maybe in 1990.MSV was agreed Raja and
he told to the audoins about how was his songs copied/inspired.
anybody tell it that to ARR.He thiks that he he is came from the sky.Bigfool.
- From: ambleen (@ 188.8.131.52)
on: Fri Sep 14 05:44:57 EDT 2001
did anybody understand what the above is abt??
- From: Karthik S (@ 184.108.40.206)
on: Fri Sep 14 06:10:47 EDT 2001
Besh besh, padu thella thelivana message. Purinju thalliduthu pongo!
- From: Da big R (@ 220.127.116.11)
on: Fri Sep 14 08:12:18 EDT 2001
it's an insilt to thyagaraja to compare his works with illayaraja.
- From: yuvan (@ )
on: Sun May 23 02:45:39 EDT 2004
ella isayum tamil grammia isayin pillaigal.
pillaikalukku perorin sayal irrukum!
anal peror polavae irrupathillay.........
- From: hari (@ 18.104.22.168)
on: Sun May 23 10:24:50 EDT 2004
There is no point in comparison as thyagaraja was focussed on compososing Kirthanans strictly adhering to ragas. IR did film music, which is bit different from setting Keerthanas (I mean to say the Melody). Both are great in their own way.
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