Topic started by Kanchana (@ ww-tp05.proxy.aol.com) on Sun Apr 19 11:41:09 EDT 1998.
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TFM boasts of several contemporary poets like Bharadhidhasan, Pattukkottai Kalyanasundaram, Kannadhasan and Vali (Version I) who penned several songs dealing with social issues such as work ethic (uzhaippu), labor rights, women's position in society, religion, caste, patriotism/ nationalism, money/power/greed and the such. In addition, non-film kavidhaigaL from Bharadhi and Bharadhidhasan have been included in TFM to heighten social awareness.
Let's go ahead and discuss some of these songs--old and new--which address some key social issues even as they were entertaining the masses in the context of the movie situation. Please elaborate on the lyrics and your thoughts on the same as your time would allow.
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- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Fri Apr 24 00:06:24 EDT 1998
chinna chinna izhai pinnip pinni vara
endru thodangum nesavaaLar paadal (padam: Pudhaiyal)
seyyum thozhilE dheyvam (padam: aaLukkoru veedu)
indha iru paadalgaL patriya full details yaarukkaavadhu
- From: mayavaram (@ 22.214.171.124)
on: Fri Apr 24 00:36:53 EDT 1998
Vaarai Nee Vaarai is by Maruthakazi
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ panorama.nus.edu.sg)
on: Fri Apr 24 01:11:46 EDT 1998
Kannadhasan's SKP & related type songs ...
vandha naaL mudhal indha naaL varai
Padam: Paava Mannippu
OhOhOhO manidhargaLE OduvadhengE sollungaL
Padam: Padiththaal Mattum POdhumaa
oruththaay makkaL naamenbOm
Padam: Anandha JOthi
ennadhaan nadakkum nadakkattumE
Padam: PaNath thOttam
paarappaa pazhaniyappaa pattaNamaam pattaNamaam
Padam: Periya idaththup peN
Madras nalla Madras
Padam: Anubhavi Raja Anubhavi
kavalaigaL kidakkattum maRandhuvidu
Padam: Pandha Paasam
aaRu manamE aaRu
and sirippu varudhu sirippu varudhu
Padam: ANdavan kattaLai
ellOrum ellaamum peRa vENdum
Padam: Karuppu paNam
kELvi piRandhadhu andru
Padam: Pachchai viLakku
ondru engaL jaathiyE ondru engaL needhiyE
Padam: PaNakkaara kudumbam
vaazhndhu paarkka vENdum
aaROdum maNNil engum neerOdum
kaththiyai theettaadhE undhan budhdhiyai theettu
varavu ettaNaa selavu paththaNaa
Padam: Bhaamaa vijayam
aalayam enbadhu veedaagum aasai vaiththaal
Padam: Thaamarai Nenjam
ammammaa thambi endru nambi (Baby Voice version)
Padam: Rajapart Rangadhurai
paramasivan kazhuththilirundha paambu kEttadhu
adi ennadi ulagam adhil eththanai kalagam
Padam: AvaL oru thodarkadhai
nallavar kuralukku madhippirukkum indha naattinilE
Padam: Dr. Siva
kaRppaam maanamaam kaNNagiyaam seedhaiyaam
Padam: engaL thanga raajaa
iththanai maandharukku oru kOyil pOdhaadhu
Padam: uNmaiyE un vilai enna
oorukkum vetkamillai indha ulagukkum vetkamillai
Padam: Yaarukkum vetkamillai
iRaivan ulagaththai padaiththaanaam
Padam: unakkaaga naan
paNam ennadaa paNam paNam
Padam: Andhamaan Kaadhali
thangangaLE naaLaiya thalaivargaLE
Padam: ennaippOl oruvan
yaadhum oorE yaavarum kELeer
Padam: NinaiththaalE inikkum
- From: Manisekatan (@ 126.96.36.199)
on: Fri Apr 24 08:04:56 EDT 1998
Maruthakazi hails from the village called Melaikkudikkadu in Trichy district.His father Aiyam PErumaal Udayar is a village head. Mother is Milagayi Ammaal. This is a farming family. Maruthakazi was born on 13 February 1920.Paabanasam Sivan's elder brother Rajagopala Aiyer gave him sufficient knowledge in stage drama as Maruthakazi had natural inclination towards this performing art. In 1940 he did intermediate in Kudanthai Government college. He staged drama there at a time when his colleague (later writer) Thi Janakiraman used to act in the female role.
Unfortunately he could not complete his studies. He concentrated in farming and song writing. The first song he ever wrote was "kalaimakal uRainthidum kalasaalai" sung by Madurai Shanmugavadivu Subbulachumy(-MS Subbulachumy). Thereafter he adored the golden voice of MSS.
At this time Devi Nadaka Sabai(run by KN Ratnam and Sri Ramulu Naidu) invited Maruthakazi to write songs for a drama called "SooravaLi" by pulavar AK Velan. There is where he wrote his first drama song and got to meet KM Sheriff for the first time. He wrote for several other dramas and acted too in small roles. The first song he wrote for cinema was in the film called Mayavathi. He and KM Sheriff were very close friends, and many films used Maruthakazi and KM Sheriff. Maruthakazi had written mostly for KV Mahadevan. Th rest is history that we are familiar with.
His first song for MGR was "Manushanai Manushan Saappidaranda" in Deva's Thaikku Pin Thaaram. I have given somne interesting info on this song elsewhere. After that film Devar used Ranjan and took Neelamalai Thirudan, to which MGR gave Devar some trouble. The angry Devar requested Maruthakazi to hit MGR in a song. So Maruthakazi wrote Sathiyamey Lachiyamai Kollada. Later MGR, Devar and Maruthakazi patched up.
In Mannathi Mannan MGR used Mar8uthakazi for a song called "aadatha manamum uNdo" the only song that TMS and MLV sang together, in which Maruthakazi penned lines in praise of Makkal Thilakam as follows:
naadengum koNdaadum ougazh paathayil-veera
nadai podum thirumENi tharun bothayil...
eedEthum illatha kalaichEvayil-thani
idam koNda umaik KaNdu ippoomiyil..
pasunthangam unathu ezhil angam..
Of course later he wrote many many more for MGR films. When Maruthakazi was almost retired MGR requested him to write for ninaippathgai mudip[pavan to hit at a political figure, and that song is "kaNNai nambathey uNNai Emaatrum"
There are two songs that I could remember that were jointly composed. One is veNNila kudai Pidikka from Abalai Anjugam, by TRM and PS. The other is Kanvazhi pugunthu karuthinil kalantha minnoli yEn mounam by TMS and MS Rajeswari from "Thookku Thooki". The latter was started off by Maruthakazi but the tail end was jointly completd by Maruthakazi and Udumalai Narayana Kavi. That tail end is:
kanvazhi pugunthu karuthinil kalanthu
kaNivuRum kaathal jothy
kaaNbOmEy paathy paathy
kaaNbOmEy paathi paathi
The song "maruthamalaiyaanEy" from the film Thunaivan earned him Tamilnaadu government award.
Likweise Sirippu athan siRappai seerthooki paarppathu namathu poRuppu was started off by Udumalai Naarayana Kavi, but as he could not complete it on time, Maruthakazi rewrote almost the entire song.
There are too many spicy stories about Maruthakazi's songs, but our area is his samooga paadalkal.
(Sooner or later we can include these titbits in a separate thread, maybe to be named "SPICE AND JUICE" if onle BONES could join in.)
Let me just quote my favourite samooga paadalkal of Maruthakazi.
1. from Paasavalai by CSJ
poruL irunthaal vanthu koodum-athai
izhanthaal vilaki Odum
uthaithavan kaalai muthamidum
uthamar vaazhvai kothividum
uthattil uRavum uLLathil pagayum
vaLarthEy aRivai maaithuvidum
uzhaippavan kayyil Odu tharum
uNavukku pathilaai nanju tharum
pazhiyEy puriyum kodiyOn pusikka
palum pazhamum thinam thEdi tharum
meiyyai poiyaai maatRividum
veeNEy siRayil poottividum
poiyum purattum niRainthavan thannai
pugazhnthEy paadal punainthuvidum..
2.from pRantha NaaL by S.G
kalvi irunthaal enna
kaNdu rasikka kaNkaLillathavarkku-(ellaam)
katRukkodukkaatha kavi vaaNarin pulamai
kanjathanamudaiyOn kaakkum paNap perumai
kavaikkuthava padippu uNarchiyillaaa nadippu
kathiravan jothi munnEy kodathil itta viLakku
aadambaram illa aRivaaLi naavaNmai
avaniyai uruvaakkum thozhilaali kaivanmai
naadikkadal kalantha nathineerin nalla thanmai
nanriyillathavarkku nallavar seitha nanmai
3. from kongu naatu thangam by MLV
iruppathu uNmayil perunthavaRey ulakil
selvam irunthenna? siRappukkal irunthenna?
kaLLamilla uLlam illathavar ellaam(irunthum)
maNakkum jaathiualli malarai thaLLi- kaNNai
paRikkum kaakithappoo vaanguvOr-veli
azhagil aasai koNdu Enguvor
malar vittu malar thaavi mathuvuNNu vaNdaaki
mananilai thadumaari vaazhnthiduvor ellaam-(irunthum)
4. from Marutha naattu veeran by TMS
samathaanamEy thEvai-antha sanmaarkkam thazhaithida seivOm sEvai
amaithiyaaga naam vaazhnthidavEy
anbum aRamum vaLarnthidavEy
samarasa paathai thOndridavEy
saanthamum inbamum soozhnthidavEy
pOtti poRaamaikal illaatha-oru
puthiya samuthaayam uruvaaga-puthar
kaattiya vazhiyil naam poga-avar
kaNda kanavukal nanavaaga
katchi pEthangaL ethaRkaaka?-pala
kalakamum pagaiyum etharkaaka?
otRumayaai naam uyanthiduvOm!
orEy katchiyaai irunthiduvOm!
5. from Yaar paiyan by Gandasaala
suyanalam perithaa pothu nalam perithaa
intha sollin uNmai thannai eNNI paarada
mathi mayakkathilEy varum thayakkathilEy
manam thadumaari thavikkum manitha
intha sollin uNmai thannai eNNi paarada
thunbam illamaley inbam uNdaaguma
anbu illatha ithayam ithayamaa
nalla thEmaangani enRum vEmbaaguma
intha sollin uNmai thannai eNNippaarada
naam thEdamaley vantha selvamenraal
athai theru meethu veeNEy yeRivathaa
thenRal puyalaavatha-uLlam theeyavathaa
intha sollin uNmai thannai eNNI paarada
6. from Aadavantha Deivam by PS
sonnalum kEtkatha ulakamunga!
sollama pOnaalum puriyaathunga-ithil
munnaalum pOgamey pinnaalum pOgamey
muzhikkira kumbal yEraLanga
puthu thozhilai thuvakki palar
thuttukkaLai pettiyiley poottuthunga
paadu padum yEzhaikaLum
paNam uLlavarum sErnthidunga
puthu paathaiyai vaguthidunga
pangu pOttuch chAappidunga
paarapatcham illama vaaazhnthidunga -endru sonnaalaumkEtkaatha ulagamunga!
7. from naan sollum ragasiyam by TMS
naan sollum ragasiyam kaN kaanUm athisayam
ithai avasiyam-avasiyan avasiyan
uNavukku oru kumbal pOradum velayilEyt
pathavikku oru kumbal
usirai vidum yEzhaiyin
uzhaippalEy oru kumbal ullaasam theduthu
kalyaaNam seiyyavEy singarap panthalum
kachEri sathuraattam oorvalamum vENuma
ivai illaamal evarEnum kalyaaNam paNNinaal
inbasugam piLLai kutti illaamal pOguma
thanga nagai vaira nagai sarnjaramaai thonginaal
mangaatha azhagu varum enRu eNNum peNkaley
pakkam varum thirudarkaLum paarthuvittaal ivaikaLai
paRithiduvaar appozhuthu kalangathO kaNgalEy
8. from naan Sollum Ragasiyam
polatha ulagathilEy nallathukku kaalamillai
pOliyellaam poduthaNNEy koNdaattaam
intha pOkku maaRa selutha vENum kaNNOttam
kaLlavarkaLum kayavarkaLum kaNNiyavaan pOrvayilEy
koLLayittu paNathai sErthu kuvippathaa
nalla manam uLLavanga sillaRaikal paarvayiley
veLlaichaLLai irunthaathaan mathippathaa
athu illaiyinna kaalil pOttu mithippathaa
ini intha nilai maaRidavEy inba nilai nErnthidavEy
onRupattu uruthiyOdu uzhaikkaNum
uLlapadi vayiReriyum uthadu mattum pazham soRiyum
thillumullu thirugu thaaLam koottamEy
pallaipallai kattikkittu paadikaarda kattikittu
kulla pOttu seiyuthu aarppaattamEy
moLLamaaRi kumbal kuNam maaRaNum
athan mooLayilEy soRanai konjam yEraNum
athu nallapadi nadanthidaNum
namma nilai UyarnthidaNum
nallavanga athukku naalum uzhaikkaNum
9. from sabash maapillai
veLLi paNathukkum nalla kuNathukkum vegu thooram
ithu uLlapadi intha ulakam uNarthum oru paadam
piLlai Enum pantha paasathai thaLLi pirinthOdum
than uLlathai irumbu pettagamakki thaaL pOdum
illathavar evaraana pOthilyum eLLi nagayaadum
iNai illatha annai anbukku kooda
sollaamal thadai pOdum
veLlathinaal varum paLla mEdupOl
selvam varum pOgum
ithai eLLaLavEnum eNNaatha kancharkku
kaLLamillathga anbu chelvamEy enrum nilayaagum
kashtam theeRum kavalaikal maaRum inbam uRuvaagum
10. from sabash mappillai
sirippavar sila pEr azhubavar palapEr
irukkum nilai enRu maaRumo
uzhaippavar vaazhvEy veethiyilEy
uRanguvatho nadai paathayilEy
irakkam kaattaththaan naathiyillEy
uyarnthavar thaazhnthida thEvayillai
uLlathai izhanthida sollavillai
uzhaippavar uyarnthaal potumaiyaa..
Now we know why Marithakazi is called "THIRAIKAVI THILAKAM"
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-ta02.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Apr 24 11:47:10 EDT 1998
Thank you for adding to the discussion on Bharadhi. I am glad to have found yet another Bharadhi fan who appreciates the breadth of his vision, the depth of his thoughts and the passion in his words--yet to be matched by any contemporary thamizh poet (IMHO).
Enjoyed your analysis of the TNRamiahdoss song complete with the "hi-tech sAmiyArgaL who run the underground Mafia"--creative choice of words!
A perspective on your thought "ingE US-il En kuppai kottugiROm, India-vil samooga sEvai seivadhaRku badhil": where anyone chooses to live and why, are personal decisions obviously. But Bharadhi's yAdhum oorE yAvarum kELir is very very true of today's Global Village with its extensive transportation & communication networks.
engE vAzhndhAlum, samooga sEvaikkum seerthiruththaththiRkum manam irundhAl mArkkam uNdu; manam illaiyendRAl, ulagil piRandhum piRakkAdhadhu pOlthAn, indhiyAvilEyE irundhum illAdhadhu pOlthAn. samudhAya maRumalarchchi enbadhu ovvoru thani manidhanum manadhAl uNmaiyai uNarndhu, thannaiyum, mudindhAl piRaraiyum seerpaduththuvadhAl ERpaduvadhu enbadhu en karuththu. Again, this is a personal perspective only based on my own experiences.
Some more random musings based on the input & background provided by Manisekaran, Keerthi, Sathya, Bhaskar, Shyam on the pre-kannadhasan era TFM & social issues:
1. Nationalistic fervour was still running high in the late 40s and early 50s resulting from the euphoria of independence. Several Bharadhi kavidhaigaL were used in TFM since they reflected the optimistic vision for the pudhiya Bharadham with a passion that matched the audience's passion, hopes and dreams.
2. As several socio-political forces came into play in TN and tried to forge their own identities versus the Congress Party which was then identified with the freedom movement, other "isms" beside nationalism start getting reflected in TF/TFM: communism, thamizhism, atheism, agnoticism, Dravidarism etc etc, resulting in some hefty contributions from the likes of Bharadhidhasan, PattukkOtai Kalyanasundaram, Ka. Mu. Sheriff, Marudhakasi and Mu. Karunanidhi.
As observed earlier, regardless of the original intent and agendas behind these kavidhaigaL, the thoughts and means for a better society stay evergreen and are applicable today.
Back to Topic:
We have not discussed Bharadhidhasan who has penned songs specifically for TFM too as part of the Dravida movement, since his works were discussed in another thread already.
Now, we can really move into the kaNNadhAsan-vAli era in TFM. Yet another interesting era for TF/TFM for several reasons. A few of them: (1) kaNNadhAsan himself had different political affiliations at different points in time and reflected their visions in his kavidhaigaL; (2) this era's TF/TFM forged and shaped the political history of TN for several years to come.
Thank you for kicking off the kaNNadhAsan-vAli era very well yesterday.
Good to see you back after a gap!
Let's continue the analysis of social issues in these poets' works...........
- From: Bhaskar (@ freeway.proxy.lucent.com)
on: Fri Apr 24 13:32:16 EDT 1998
Ungal Vizhippu Unarchi Kodutha
Vasagangalukku mikka naNdri.
Enakku endha perspective-la varutham endraal
naan Indiavula padichuttu, government panathula
padichuttu, kadasiyula Indiavukkaga vaelai
seiyyamal inga USA vukku vandhu vaelai seyvadhu
enakennamO Kuppai kotti kondu (KKK) iruppadhu
pOla dhaan thoninadhu. I was talking about the
Brain Drain Situation.
where anyone chooses to live and why, are
personal decisions obviously.
EnnOda case appadi illai, ennOda friends
ellarum inga vandhutaanga, adhunaala
naanum Gumballa Govindha pOttutaen :-))))
But neenga sonna sila karuthukkal ennai vizhikka
vaithulladhu. Naan ingu KKK irundhaalum ingulla
technologies and advances ellam therindha pin
avattrai nam nattukku marubadiyum eduthu sella
oru vaaippu varum endru ennugiraen. Infact
ippozhudhu ingulla ella vidhamaana Hi-Tech
companies kooda Indiavil oru Base illamal
iruppadhillai. So andha maadiri oru oppurtunity
vandhaal meendum Indiavukku sendru nam nattukku
edhavadhu seiyyavaendum endra oru positive
and optimistic thinking vandhulladhu.
engE vAzhndhAlum, samooga sEvaikkum
seerthiruththaththiRkum manam irundhAl mArkkam uNdu;
Konnuteenga! manam irukku aanaal mArkkathai
dhaan thaedanum. But most of the time inga
USA-la irukkum bOdhu materialistic pleasuresil
moozhgi pOi approm, ennOda manamum adhukkoda
moozghi pOi vidura maadiri oru feeling.
So mArkkam kidaikkum bodhu manam iruppadhillai.
manam irukkum bodhu mArkkam kidaippadhillai.
Indha maadhiri situation enakku niraya murai
vandhu irukku. Neenga sonna piragu atleast
enakku manamum mArkkamum rendum onna saerndhu
varavaendum endru ennOda Kadavulai vaendugiraen!
Thanks again for the Vizhippu Unarchi Varigal.
Thanks for your Kannadhasan SKP Songs.
Thanks for your Marudhakazi's Life History,
Titbits and Songs. It was very informative
and entertaining, sometimes referred to as
Infotainment here in the US.
Will be back later today with
kaNNadhAsan-vAli era songs on SKP! ......
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